Conversations with Walsch (Part 4)

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Becky: I wonder if there is a way, certainly on a very individual basis, say for example a person wanted to raise them into a more joyful state our of the fear state, but they have been brought up with a more fearful religious background, what are the steps that a person could take to raise themselves out of that and exist more in a state of love than in a state of fear.

Neale: I think the first step is to stop worrying about yourself on any level or in any degree whatsoever, to just cut it out, stop it; to just stop it, stop thinking that life is about you. I like to say to my audiences what if you imagined that life had nothing to do with you whatsoever, what if you imagined that the days and times of your existence had nothing to do with somehow fulfilling needs that you imagine yourself to have, emotional needs, even physical needs, what if in fact you could move to place of consciousness where all of your needs were met automatically without you even lifting a finger. What if there were a process by which that could occur? If I could take the idea that you need something out of your mind, what you would do then with your life, how would you behave and what purpose would you put to your life. I experience that I need nothing it is very difficult in a world that is filled with need to describe that feeling. But I have never thought that I needed anything particular for reasons that are clear to me, life has always brought me everything that I have ever needed. Now, you could say, Neale, you are one of the lucky ones, you were raised and born in a country that is wealthy, with good parents, and you weren’t living in the Sahara Desert or someplace where life conditions were more difficult for you, that is a metaphysical question and how did that occur? but beyond that I believe that even a person born into the worst of circumstances, if they move into a state that is an expression of who they really are, can rise to a place where their life no longer is or has anything to do with themselves and in that moment, they transformed their experience both of themselves and of life and they touch life itself in a way, which transforms the life around them and they become a living example of what is really true of us as beings and a prime example of this, that I can think of almost immediately, is Mother Teresa, who was not born into the lap of luxury and nor did she comes from Los Angeles or Beverly Hills and could easily have fallen into the illusion of having not enough of what you need to be happy in life, not enough of even what you need to survive, she could have fallen into that illusion quite easily at certain points of her life, but she realised with astonishing clarity that her life had nothing to do with her, if you had asked Mother Teresa whilst she was alive how much of your life is devoted to you, she would have said none of it, not from morning until night, not a single moment of it is devoted to me, it is all devoted to everyone else, yet in the devoting of her life to everyone else, her life was supremely devoted to herself, because Mother Teresa understood something which very few people understand, there is no separation from her and everybody else, but she defined the word Self as everything that she sees and every other person that exists, therefore she saw that when she served a little child who was starving, a poverty ridden child in some awful terrible place in the world, when she served that child, she was in fact serving herself. The irony of that is, that everything she could have hoped for in her life, the love of others, the great honours that life can bestow upon people, to say nothing of the physical security which her supporting sisters would do anything for to provide for her needs, she couldn’t even put her head down without someone rushing to put a pillow there, anything you could ask her, out of her total relinquishing of any demand for it. This is the path that has been walked by all great masters, since the beginning of time. And we see the example in 100 Mother Teresas, 100 Buddhas, 100 Krishnas, 100 Christs, 100 Moses’, we see the example over and over again given to us, through ages and time in human history, and we simply don’t take it. We say, yes, yes, very well, and yes we see that, and now I am going my way. And the masters sit back and say, but you just agreed, you just agreed that this is the better way. Yes, but I am going this way anyway, I am going to pretend that I need emotional and physical and psychological stuff in my life and don’t try and talk me out of it. And I do see that your way is a better way, but to hell with it, I am going to go my way anyway. And so the answer to your question is to step away from your imagined thought of who you are and what you think you need to get through life and imagine for just, I challenge people to do this, just imagine this for 30 days and that their life will change forever, irrevocably and they wonder at the end of that 30 days, how they ever could have experienced themselves in any other way. So the 30 day diet is to imagine for 30 days that you need nothing for yourself and that your only reason for existing is to wake up everybody else’s life who you touch, is to provide everyone else around you with what they imagine they need. If they can get over their idea that they need it and get past it already. Stop it, cut it out, what do you want, do you want some money do you want some love, do you want some sex, what is it you want, I’ll give it to you and then you will see how easy it is to get it, and then after that you’ll go, oh, I get it, so I am not about that, I don’t have to be about that, so if I am not about that, what am I about, and you realize that and join with me and wake everybody else up and then the 2 of us will go out there and show them, and then the 5 of us will go out there and show them and then the 50 of us will go out there and show them, and our function on the earth then is to raise collective consciousness by giving people back to themselves and notice for themselves who they really are. This doesn’t mean that we can’t have the things of life, this doesn’t mean that we can’t have all the sex we want, all the money we want, all the power we want, or all the gratifications that life can give us, I have all of those things, in fact I experience all those things that I mentioned, in abundance, more than I ever thought I could, the day that I let go of my need to have it, I noticed that it was all right there, wasn’t that interesting. Here I though I had to struggle for it, I spent 50 years trying to get all that stuff, and I wound up on the street, which you probably know, if you know my life story, living on the street was nothing, it was when I lived on the street, and I didn’t do this for a week or for a month, but for the better part of a year, you might think that that isn’t a long time until you spend about a year outside in all weathers, and you can’t get inside, because there is no inside to get into. You are simply on the street, and you hold your hand out asking people for a dime, or a dollar to get through the day and I did that, and when you get down to that level of life and survive it, you realize oh my goodness I made it all up, I made the whole struggle up, it was not necessary.

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