Becky: It’s funny how even by talking about letting go in that way, we create a fear inside ourselves, it’s like that fear when you think, if I do that, if I go there, I might not get up again, it’s that fear of what if I don’t get up again, what if I don’t manage to get myself back to this level. So how can we transcend that inner a fear?
Neale: By taking the 30 day experiment, and just doing it. If you spend the next 30 days of your life, totally, completely and utterly serving everyone around you, and by that I mean not in a way that allows the world to abuse you, not in service to another which allows them to walk all over you and step all over you, but simply in a way that allows you to see what you are doing in the room. What are you doing in the room, you know I have an idea about myself that says I have to come to the room to heal the room, I have come to this space to heal this space, there is no other reason for me to be here. There is no other reason for me to do this interview. Now if I give every interview from that place, I have come to this interview to heal all of those who listen to it, there is no other reason for me to be here. This is the fourth interview that I’ve done today and I do 15 a week. I couldn’t possibly acquire that much interest in me, if I were trying to somehow serve myself. I see that instantly, there would be any need to discuss anything, there would be no reason to. So the answer to your question is that we just give up our thought that somehow life isn’t going to work out. Of course, we have to redefine what life working out looks like. If that looks a certain way to us. If you understand that you think "well, I need two cars, a flat and whatsoever it is we think we need, five pairs of shoes, this that and the other, and we have all this stuff that we think we need, that might be the problem, how we are defining what success is in life, but if we define success as just the fullest richest experience of the self, of who we really are and what life can offer in the formula that I have presented here, then it will work inevitably and every single time. As every master who has walked the planet has demonstrated. This is all so simple. I think that if there is any sadness in my soul, I think that it is that I see thousands and hundreds of thousands, millions of people who have no conception of what I am talking about, no idea, just out in the lobby of this hotel, there are two people there and I have sensed the energy in this place, they were store managers, at a conference at this hotel of retail store managers, for a chain of stores, and there they were and I could feel the energy and the vibe and they were all there to discuss business, you could feel the politics in the room, the manager, the regional manager, the director and the store managers and the assistant managers, and you could feel them vying for power and to be promoted next year to become this, that or the other, and you could sense that in this space, the congenial conviviality that had nothing to do with reality and you could begin to sense the focus and the energy that was probably in that room, is right here in this room for this interview, in a room down the hall to discuss their marketing strategies for the next quarter, to see what it would take to bring up the bottom line. It is profoundly sad to see so much human energy focused so abysmally on nothing that matters at all.
Becky: It’s like it’s a distraction I think. It’s like the idea of being a floating planet in the middle of nowhere without real purpose or belief or idea of what you are doing, then it becomes so easy to make it about something, like making money, anything other that I’m lost and I don’t know what I’m doing.
Neale: It wouldn’t be so bad of course if it produced happiness for people, you could say well do whatever it takes, it’s fine, there’s no judgment here, there’s no moral assertion one way or the other, if it makes you happy, but you’re not looking at a lot of happy people. You walk through a shopping centre, the lobby of this hotel, down the street or anywhere in the world, and you don’t see happy people, you see a bunch of human beings that are unhappy, deeply inner conflicted, using violence to solve the majority of their problems, and cry themselves to sleep at night. And you look at that and say, if you see how wildly dysfunctional they are, how distant we are from the true happiness that we know that humanity has the right to reach, to experience and to expect. If you see that this way of being in the world is dysfunctional and antithetical to that, then why are you continuing to be this way and the answer is that we have no teachers who are telling us that there is any other way. Even standard organized religions do not say the words that I am saying. They in fact continue to encourage humanity to act as it has been act as it has for these several thousands of years, so I think that we live in a very primitive, very elementary society of spiritual children, the largest number of which have no concept of what I am even talking about.
Becky: It is frightening because I think it is that distraction that leads to their own destruction and leads in fact to the destruction of us all. What are the steps, if we could just take anything from right now, what are the steps to the vision?
Neale: Step number one is just open your eyes and look at the world around you. Just stop for the tiniest moment and look at the world around you objectively. Turn on CNN, and I dare you to look at the television set for the entire day. I mean people say that you shouldn’t watch television because it is magnetic and it creates a negative energy, but I think just the opposite. Take a day off work or pick a weekend and just sit there in front of that TV set and watch the news for eight hours, watch the BBC for eight or twelve hours straight and then just walk away from there after watching that for eight hours straight and tell yourself that this is the world that I choose to create. This is the world that I am happy about living in. This is the world that I call my own and of which I am exceedingly proud. No-one can do that. We will all walk away saying when did the madness hit. What happened here, where did we lose our way? So the first step is to come to a basic agreement with yourself, this is not the life I choose. The second step is to notice and to declare that you can and do have the power to choose a different kind of life, indeed to create it. That’s where of course the difficulty is. Many people would agree with me that the life that we are seeing out there is not the life we choose, but very few would agree that there is anything that we could do about it. Well that’s just the way it is, so that the best we can do is that we muddle through it, and see if we can get through with the least amount of damage. And that’s what people believe is their lot in life, so what’s the point in railing against it because nothing can be done anyway. If Winston Churchill thought that, we wouldn’t be sitting here today having this conversation, do you know that? It takes enormous powerful individuals to look in the face of everything to the contrary and say no I don’t accept that. I don’t accept that as the prevailing reality. Whether it’s Churchill or Gandhi or whoever it was, name a name, pick a name, there are great beings of humanity who simply said no to what was right in front of them. So the step is to look at what’s in front of us and say no, to be another way, and in that moment, we give birth to the other way that there’s got to be, by our very decision to reach for it, indeed to create it.
So I’ve come here to the UK to present a programme called “The Gathering at the Crossroads”, to see if we can’t gather some energy around a new principle of life, which says that we are part of the creation of life itself, and that we must now take a stand. We must now make a declaration. We must now choose again, because humanity is at a crossroads, we are deciding now at a fundamental level of who we really are and who we are about to become as a species, make no mistake about it, this is a time of decision, and the problem with the world today is that the civil are not organized and the organized are not civil.